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Friday, April 29, 2005

Senate GOP-ers Look to Trim $500 M from Doyle Budget

Senate insiders are talking about a goal of cutting $500 million from the Doyle budget plan, and members like budget hawk Sen. Robert Cowles are combing through the fine print. This week he wanted to delete the standard budget adjustments for agencies like the Court of Appeals, a motion that was tabled for further discussion. "If we can nickel and dime some of these down, squeeze a couple agencies here and there, that will add up to real savings," explains a Cowles staffer. "If our caucus wants to get to $500 million in cuts, we'll have to dial down agencies and grab as much as we can here and there."

Kaufert acknowledges that the $500 million cut level is being discussed. "The goal of $500 million from the budget, I think that’s a goal that people have had discussions about. Our caucus hasn’t gotten together on it yet, but I think the leaders have talked and said they have the same parameters and goals," Kaufert says.

"All some people have done is set the parameters, that being one of the goals, and I don’t think a decision has been made that that’s the number, but it’s being tossed around by some people."

Kaufert talks proudly of the $150 million in bonding the committee saved when GOP-ers dismantled the governor’s proposal to pay for Medicaid funding by borrowing against future cigarette and alcohol tax collections. "We’ve come up with savings in spending and savings in borrowing, and were able to come up with a pretty good package on the hunting and fishing fees by the Assembly and Senate working together," he declares.

Thursday, April 28, 2005

JFC Won't Be Back 'Til Wednesday at Earliest

The Joint Finance Committee has announced it won't meet again this week. The panel will also not meet on Monday, due to committee members travel commitments, and Tuesday due to an Assembly floor session. That puts the next likely meeting day at Wednesday.

Wednesday, April 27, 2005

JFC Thursday Meeting Looks Unlikely

It looks unlikely that the Joint Finance Committee will meet tomorrow as Assembly Co-Chair Dean Kaufert had indicated when last night's session ended. No notice was put out for a meeting tomorrow, and the committee has so far said they won't meet on Fridays.

A new round of budget issue papers is expected to come from the Legislative Fiscal Bureau tomorrow or Friday that should give the committee plenty to handle next week.

In yesterday's session, the JFC did not take care of budget papers 675-677, relating to shared revenue and tax relief direct aid payments, or 680-682, relating to shared revenue and tax relief property tax credits. The committee also held off on budget papers for local transportation aids in budget papers 725-728 and 735-740.

See links to the budget papers.

In addition, votes on Circuit Courts, the Court of Appeals, the Supreme Court and the Judicial Commission were also sidestepped.

Reaction to DNR Fee Hikes

Read below to see how interested parties reacted to last night's vote on the DNR package.

  • Gov. Jim Doyle said he thought the Joint Finance Committee made progress last night in supporting a $4 increase in the deer hunting license, as well as increases in other hunting and fishing fees. Doyle had proposed a $12 increase in the deer hunting license, as requested by most of the state's outdoor groups, to help fill the multi-million dollar deficit in the department's Fish and Wildlife Account.

    "There still is a hole in this fund that they have to address," Doyle said, adding for two months Republicans vowed to never increase any fees. "They made real movement on this. ... I hope we're going to be able to work through it." Doyle also said he never bought into the argument that increasing the license from $20 to $32 would price people out of deer hunting. "I don't think it was excessive at all."

    The governor added he has heard from duck hunters and other outdoor groups concerned with the committee's decision to transfer nearly $1.4 million from the Great Lakes Fishing Stamp Account, the Waterfowl Stamp Account and the Wild Turkey Stamp Account for the Fish and Wildlife Account.

  • Reps. Meyer, Kaufert: JFC Keeps Hunting and Fishing Accessible

    EXCERPT: "We want the state's outdoors enthusiasts to be confident that the money they are paying for hunting and fishing licenses is going directly back into the fish and wildlife account to secure the future of quality sporting in their communities," Kaufert said.

    The package approved by the Joint Finance Committee today scales down the bloated DNR request for the fish and wildlife account and significantly reduces the Governor's deer license increase by $8, from $32 to $24. All told, the Joint Finance Committee trimmed Governor Doyle's DNR budget by more than $4 million and ratcheted down his license increases accordingly.

    "As a life-long sportsman myself, I feel the pain of every hunter and angler in my district who has come up to me and said they can't stomach shelling out more money for grouse hunting or for their deer tags, especially when they have doubts that the money will be going for the valuable hunting and fishing resources the fees were intended for," said Rep. Dan Meyer.

  • Sen. Fitzgerald: Finance Committee Scales Back Hunting Fee Hikes

    "Asking deer hunters in Wisconsin to bear the bulk of the cost for increasing spending on fish and wildlife programs is wrong and sends a bad message to the sportsmen and sportswomen of Wisconsin," Fitzgerald said. "Our action today will help provide adequate funding for conservation programs without foisting unreasonable fee increases on Wisconsin hunters."

    In scaling back the governor's proposed deer hunting fee hike, the committee also voted to accept modest increases in certain other hunting and fishing fees, including the fees for non-resident hunting and fishing licenses, which will help provide needed funding for fish and wildlife programs.

    Fitzgerald also said that he supports a full audit of the Department of Natural Resources Fish and Wildlife program, to ensure that money collected from hunting and fishing fees is being used for related programs and activities, and not used for other unrelated administrative costs.

  • Wis. Wildlife Federation: Outdoor Groups Oppose Raid on Segregated Accounts

    EXCERPT: Today three statewide hunting and fishing clubs with over 75,000 members strongly protested the first-ever Legislative raid of segregated hunting and fishing stamps designed to be used specifically for habitat improvement for specific fish and wildlife species. On Wednesday night, the Legislature's Joint Finance Committee voted 12-4 to transfer $1.35 million dollars from the Great Lakes Fishing Stamp account, the Waterfowl Stamp account and the Wild Turkey Stamp account. These accounts, some in existence for thirty years, are by statute to be used only for habitat improvement projects for the specific species. A hunter or angler wishing to hunt or fish for one of the species first must buy a general hunting or fishing license and then must buy the specific stamp for the species. Segregated species stamps also exist for pheasants and for inland trout fishing.

  • Rep. Nass: DNR Doesn't Deserve Increased Fees and Spending

    EXCERPT: "The DNR is one of the least fiscally responsible agencies in state government.  In the past, they have treated the fee-based programs as nothing more than slush funds.  The time has come to freeze hunting and fishing fees until major changes occur in the management of the DNR and its programs," Nass said.

    One priority of the increased spending will be for hiring more game wardens.  The DNR has been pushing for years to increase the number of game wardens. 

    "I can honestly say that not one constituent has contacted me and said raise my fees and we need more wardens.  Frankly it's just the opposite, I get more complaints about game wardens and certain enforcement activities," Nass said.

Tuesday, April 26, 2005

No JFC Hearings Wednesday

The JFC adjourned at 8:38 p.m. Due to the late hour, tomorrow's meeting is cancelled. Instead the committee may meet Thursday.

DNR Deliberations Hold Up JFC Hearing

Budget deliberations hit a severe snag this afternoon as several items, mainly dealing with court issues, were set aside and the JFC wrestled behind closed doors for two hours with how to handle a list of DNR funding votes.

Supreme Court Chief Justice Shirley Abrahamson showed a knack for timing by showing up just as the JFC was about to cut a chunk from the court's budget.

Sen. Robert Cowles moved to remove the $107,000 earmarked for a court interpreter program manager and document translation. Cowles answered an assertion by Rep. Pedro Colon that the cut was aimed at the "weakest part" of our society who "don't vote."

"It has nothing to do with the weakest part," Cowles said. "This is the beginning of some really tough decisions I know the Republicans want to make to fill the holes made by this governor."

Minutes later, and moments before a vote, Abrahamson walked in, drawing a few laughs. The committee took a break at abot 5:05 p.m. to ask her about the issue.

The break was supposed to last until 5:30 p.m.

Before the Supreme Court funding could be resolved, members got sidetracked on the DNR hunting and fishing license fee increases. The co-chairs, staff and other legislative leadership scuttled in and out of a closed door meeting, always being careful not to reach a quorum, as they tried to hammer out a motion. (Strangely, Rep. Scott Jensen didn't take part in the caucus, instead sitting at his desk on the panel, reading amd chatting with Reps. Jeff Stone and Kitty Rhoades.) They didn't emerge from the room to reconvene for nearly two hours.

At about 6:45 p.m., Co-Chair Dean Kaufert said the committee was waiting for a re-draft of a motion on the DNR increases on hunting and fishing license fees. According to a source, the struggle was to try to cut the fee increases Doyle proposed and still come up with enough capital to fully fund the programs. Deer licenses were especially tricky.

Abrahamson stayed around for the vote on the Supreme Court budget item. At about 6:55 p.m. Co-Chair Scott Fitzgerald took her aside, and a few minutes later she left with her three aides. The issue didn't come to a vote. The co-chairs said they wanted another day to look at the court interpreter issue, as well as the standard budget adjustments of the courts, which Cowles suggested be deleted. The budget items for Circuit Courts, Court of Appeals, the Supreme Court and the Judicial Commission were delayed.

A motion to amend Doyle's budget recommendations for hunting and fishing fees was circulated. Among the changes was a raise in deer license fees from the current $20 to $24. Doyle had proposed a $32 fee. The committee wants the same for archery fees.

The committee has raised fees for elk and class "A" bear from $45 to $49. Doyle had suggested they stay the same. The JFC also adopted $5 dollar increases for non-resident annual small game and five-day small game fees, which are $80 and $50 currently. Again, Doyle had recommended no change.

The committee went along with the governor's plan to raise annual fishing fees from $17 to $20. However, they voted to increase the annual non-resident fee for a fishing license by $10, bringing the fee to $50.

According to the Legislative Fiscal Bureau, the fee increases will add $13 million into the Conservation Wildlife Fund.

Kaufert said the reconfigured fee schedule allows the department to hire a new class of wardens and brings the Conservation Wildlife Fund out of the red. "It allows us to provide the same level of service with a whole lot less fees," he said.

Democrats argued that the GOP-powered motion contains fund transfers or "raids" from some stamp programs, the very type of maneuver the Republicans have slammed Doyle for. "People who bought stamps might not like it if their money is raided," said Rep. Mark Pocan.

Reps. Dan Meyer and Kaufert assured that all projects will get their full finding.

Fitzgerald said Doyle's $12 increase on the deer license had his constituents furious. "The way the governor's fee list was built was kind of increase, increase, increase and whatever they couldn't fill went on the deer license," he said, adding that he is most proud the committee and other legislators (especially singling out Sen. Neal Kedzie) were able to lower the deer license increase and still make ends meet.

The entire package, which included Budget Papers 510 through 523, was passed 12-4 on a party line vote. Read the motion that passed.

Committee Approves Rental Car Tax Boost

The JFC unanimously approved a motion to increase the state's vehicle rental tax from 3 to 5 percent, which will pull an additional $1.6 million into state coffers in '06 and $2.2 million in '07. The increase is detailed in Budget Paper 711.

Sen. Joe Liebham made a motion to reduce Gov. Jim Doyle's proposed Dept. Of Tourism marketing increase from $3.8 million to $2.8 million.

“Even in tourism we have to tighten the belt a bit,” Liebham said, adding the saved cash could be applied to other needy programs. The motion failed, however, 12-4.

JFC to Meet at 2:30 p.m.

The Joint Finance Committee will convene at 2:30 p.m. The meeting was originally scheduled to begin at 1:30 p.m. today.

Thursday, April 21, 2005

Joint Finance To Tackle DNR Fee Increases, Shared Revenue Next Week

Hunting and fishing license fee increases, shared revenues to municipalities, and local road aids will be among the hot topic the Joint Committee on Finance will take on next week. Look for a debate of the DNR fees, as Republican JFC members have questions about the increases and how the money will be used.

Another contested issue could be Gov. Jim Doyle's proposal to increase the state tax on rental cars.

The committee has announced meetings for 1:30 p.m. Tuesday and 10 a.m. Wednesday. So far, a Thursday meeting has not been posted.



See a full list of budget papers prepared for next week's meeting:

JFC Schedule 4-26/27


Budget Papers

Wednesday, April 20, 2005

Gov. Doyle Speaks Out on Today's Action

Gov. Jim Doyle offered his reaction to the JFC actions at an impromptu press conference at the Capitol. He said his bonding proposal for medical assistance was a "win-win," adding it would reduce the number of individuals in nursing homes. “The bigggest driver of our Medicaid budget is the rapidly escalating costs of long-term care,” he said. Doyle said the number of individuals in nursing homes needs to be reduced, or else “we will continue to see the costs go out of sight.”

On the defeated plan to privatize some lottery positions, he said, "I think it would’ve made good sense to do it. The fact is the lottery is not a core state function, and there are private organizations that do it very well and we could have saved some money.”

Tourism Votes Moved to Next Week

The JFC adjourned at about 1:50 p.m. with most of its calendar completed. The committee postponed action on Dept. of Tourism budget papers due to incompleted amendments on some of the items. Tourism will be part of the calendar when the committee reconvenes Tuesday.

JFC Approves 10 New Trooper Positions

Gov. Jim Doyle had his increase in the number of state trooper positions cut from 20 to 10 by the JFC. On a 9-7 vote, the committee approved an amendment to increase the current number of trooper positions from 371 to 381. A motion to approve Doyle's full 20-position increase failed 13-3.

Lottery Privatization Fails

A motion to move some functions of the state lottery, such as marketing, to the private sector in accordance with the governor's budget failed to pass at the Joint Finance Committee. Doyle proposed eliminating 55 jobs under the plan.

Rep. Scott Jensen backed the privatization plan, saying it's always preferable to move jobs from the public to private sector. He also said moving the marketing to the private sector could boost sales and spur property tax relief.

But JFC Co-Chair Scott Fitzgerald opposed it, saying, “One hiccup, one incident of fraud or scandal could have a permanent impact on property tax relief.”

On a 10-6 vote, the motion to adopt the governor's privatization move failed. The committee then passed a proposal to leave the situation alone on a 12-4 vote.

GOP Slams Doyle's MA Borrowing Plan

Republican members voted unanimously to eliminate Gov. Jim Doyle's plan to use the sale of $130 million in revenue bonds to fill a hole in medical assistance funding. After nearly 45 minutes of discussion, the committee voted to take out the borrowing in Budget Paper 180 on a party line 12-4 vote.

JFC Co-Chair Dean Kaufert ripped into Gov. Jim Doyle, saying the issue had “touched a nerve with some of us on this side of the aisle.” He blasted Doyle for saying that to eliminate the borrowing and Patients Compensation Fund transfer for Medicaid would necessitate excising some people from medical assistance rolls and out of nursing homes. Kaufert took offense at the “scare tactics.”

“Democrats aren't the only ones who care about poor people,” Kaufert said. “We do too.”

He said the real cost of the $130 million would be $225 million when the bill comes due. If medical assistance funding was important to the governor, he should have put “real” money into the program, not borrowed money, Kaufert said. “I would have thought this priority demanded real money, not credit card budgeting,” he said.

Rep. Kitty Rhoades said the Republicans need to commit to filling the hole. “We have a moral obligation,” she said.

Rep. Mark Pocan said the GOP members were engaging in “Wimpy logic,” an allusion to the Popeye cartoon character who often said “I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today.” He said the Republicans are making promises to fill in the funding hole that they can't keep. “Somehow I don't remember Wimpy paying anyone back,” Pocan said. He and Sen. Lena Taylor suggested the committee table the issue for now and take it up after they cut the needed money from other programs. “Now we're talking the talk. Let's take up this issue when we're walking the walk,” Taylor said.

But Kaufert said the program will be funded, saying the money should come from $1.6 billion in new revenue. “It's early in the process, and we will make it a priority.”

See related statements from

GOP to Discuss Six-Point Budget Plan

A six-point set of budget principles will be pitched today in the Senate Republican caucus, a caucus source says.

Sens. Ted Kanavas and Mike Ellis have reportedly been working on a plan they say will result in tax cuts in the next four to seven years. The principles include:
- no general tax increase
- no increase in fees
- no new spending that exceeds revenue growth
- no bonding for general purpose operations
- limiting transfers to less than 1 percent of general purpose revenue
- implement the proprerty tax freeze passed by the Senate.

“It's a real budget, it's a conservative budget,” the source says. The source says the caucus should support the six-point proposal.

The caucus is set to start at 2 p.m. but could be moved back to accomodate the late start of the Joint Finance Committee.

Medicaid Funding Could Be First on Agenda

Sources say the Joint Finance Committee could lead off today by dismantling Gov. Jim Doyle's plan to leverage future “sin” tax revenues to cover the hole in Medicaid funding. The governor has estimated the revenue obligation bond issue could generate up to $130 million in net proceeds for the state's medical assistance program. The Republican members of the committee were in a closed-door meeting as the 10 a.m. hour passed.

Budget Papers Up for Vote Today

On today's agenda:

*Department of Revenue -- Lottery Administration
*Department of Tourism
*Department of Transportation -- State Patrol
*State Treasurer
*Revenue Obligation Bonds -- Medical Assistance Revenue Obligation Bonds
*Department of Regulation and Licensing
*District Attorneys
*Office of the State Public Defender

More information

Tuesday, April 19, 2005

Committee Taking 16-Hour Break

The Joint Committee on Finance adjourned at about 5:40 p.m. after having voted on more than half of the issue papers before it. Pleased with the progress, Co-Chair Dean Kaufert said the committee will reconvene at 10 a.m. tomorrow, an hour later than the earlier posted 9 a.m. start.

Counties Benefit from Administrative Savings

Amendments to Budget Paper 655, dealing with Tax Administration program revenue appropriations, would send administration savings on tax collections for counties with sports stadium projects back to those counties instead of lapsing them to the state.

The amendment was authored by Sen. Robert Cowles and seconded by Sen. Mary Lazich. The net effect of the amendment is that $550,000 of the $1.4 million that would normally return to the state would instead be returned to county coffers to retire debt.

Rep. Scott Jensen didn't like the amendment, saying the money administrative efficiencies yield should benefit state taxpayers, not county taxpayers. But JFC Co-Chair Dean Kaufert said the point is to get the debt retired as quickly as possible. Despite Jensen's opposition, the motion passed 14-2.

Telecoms Get OK to Hike Late Fees

The committee voted 14-2 to approve an amendment to Budget Paper 640 that would allow telecommunication utilities the authority to increase their late fees to residential customers to 1.5 percent on residential customers and the greater of $5 or 1.5 percent to non-residential customers.

Sen. Russ Decker questioned the timing of the move with other costs, like gasoline, increasing for consumers. “Just because SBC wants us to do it doesn't mean we should do it,” Decker said.

Rep. Mark Pocan questioned whether it was a fiscal item, calling it “a bill with a curly tail and snout being put in the budget.”

Co-Chair Scott Fitzgerald defended the action. “It's something that will not only bring us into compliance but make sure the PSC has the controls they need over this segment of the industry.”

Rep. Scott Jensen said neighboring states are at 1.5 percent, to which Pocan replied that the committee should use the same standard when it starts talking about domestic partnership benefits.

Elections Board Funding Gets Unanimous OK

The JFC unanimously approved Budget Paper 270 regarding the Elections Database Conversion, along with two motions to give the state Elections Board an assist with its IT difficulties.

The first was Sen. Mary Lazich's motion to reserve $450,000 GPR for future release by the JFC to allow the Elections Board to hire an external IT consultant and make master lease payments to permit work to begin.

The second was Rep. Mark Pocan's motion to have the Legislative Audit Bureau complete an audit of the agency's recent tech development projects, including the new voter list and info system.

Kaufert quipped that this made two weeks in a row that Pocan had motions pass, to which Pocan replied, “I wonder if you could send a party membership over to me.”

JFC Restores Stewardship Review

Kaufert said he hoped Gov. Jim Doyle was listening when the JFC co-chair asked for continued oversight on state stewardship purchases during a discussion on Budget Paper 506, covering the Warren Knowles-Gaylord Nelson Stewardship 2000 Program Review.

The Neenah Republican said finance committee review was a longstanding practice, but last budget he admitted the committee may have gotten “too cute” on trying to limit the land purchases. “We left ourselves open to a veto and the governor took advantage of that,” Kaufert said.

As a result Doyle vetoed the stewardship line item, which Kaufert said is a mistake. “To have one person determine $60 million per year ... I firmly believe is not the way to run a railroad,” he said.

GOP Rep. Scott Jensen said Doyle's seizing of the oversight sapped the program of bipartisan support. Kaufert pointed out that the Legislature had approved 105 of 109 stewardship proposals prior to 2003.

Sen. Russ Decker reminded the GOP members that it was a Republican governor that seized control of the DNR Board's ability to appoint a DNR secretary. Jensen countered that Doyle ran for governor with the promise to restore the DNR Board's appointing power, yet he hasn't seen him put it in the budget yet. “Once they have the power, they don't give it up,” Jensen said.

Kaufert and Sen. Rob Cowles said they hope the passage of the paper will foster the beginning of a thaw on stewardship between the Legislature and governor. It passed along party lines 12-4. The version passed restores committee oversight of large stewardship projects.

JFC Starts Late

The Joint Finance Committee finally was called to order at about 2:45, an hour and 15 minutes later than scheduled. Co-Chair Dean Kaufert apologized for the delay and said there were some “loose ends to tie up.”

Kaufert promised the final document would improve on Gov. Jim Doyle's budget, which he said included the “stealing and raiding of funds.” Doyle's budget gave the committee “unlevel ground” to start from, and Kaufert promised a balanced budget despite the challenge.

Co-Chair Scott Fitzgerald said he looked forward to working with minority members of the committee and encouraged them to bring concerns to him.

Kaufert said the committee would not take up Tourism, the state Treasurer or the District Attorney and Public Defender items today.

See Kaufert's opening statement.

The first vote passed along partisan lines 12-4 on Budget Paper 290, dealing with the general obligation bonding authority in the Environmental Improvement Fund. Kaufert congratulated the committee on a good start, saying they had saved the state $25 million in bonding.

Monday, April 18, 2005

Doyle Gives Progress Report on Budget

-- Gov. Jim Doyle sat down with reporters today to reiterate his budget wish list and ladle some criticism over the GOP-dominated committee’s handling of the bill. Doyle said his door has been open to meet with the legislative leaders, Assembly Speaker John Gard and Senate Majority Leader Dale Schultz, to cultivate common ground, but he sounded as if the discussions have fallen on deaf ears.

“There have been some real differences in priorities expressed so far,” the governor said of the Republicans budgeting strategy. “They have been choosing nursing home operators over nursing home residents … They are choosing doctors over patients, and they are choosing huge construction projects over school children.”

The Dem governor outlined to members of the Capitol press corps his five budget priorities, principles he has held to tightly since introducing his budget in February; fund 2/3 of education costs, expansion four-year-old kindergarten, expansion of the SAGE program, protection of health care and Medicaid funding, and the protection of shared revenue. “I want a property tax freeze that is responsible, and in order to do that there has to be funding for police and fire protection,” he explained.

Doyle said he hasn’t heard from Commerce Secretary Mike Morgan since Friday’s tax filing deadline, but he isn’t expecting a dramatic surge in revenues beyond the guideline he used in conceptualizing his budget. “As I said, it seems to me anything we do have should be going towards making sure we cover Medicaid,” he said.

Doyle was skeptical that Republicans could fill in the hole in Medicaid funding they’ve made by rejecting his proposed $180 million from the Patients Compensation Fund, which he said is needed to cover a one-time hole caused by pulled federal funds. He said the PCF is over-funded by several hundred million dollars. “At what level does that fund get before somebody decides they’re going to choose the patients needs first? When it hits a billion dollars, or a billion-and-a-half or two billion dollars?”

Doyle said the finance committee better not try to take money from education to pay for Medicaid. “I will fight them if they tried to pass a budget that robbed education to pay Medicaid,” Doyle said.

Doyle said he’s been very upfront about his budgeting process, but poked the Republicans for what he insinuated were secret dealings. “So now it’s their turn to proceed, and what we’ve seen in the last couple weeks isn’t very encouraging. We’ve seen a lot of closed-door meetings, we’ve seen weekend conference calls to avoid the press and the public, and last week we saw an unprecedented joint caucus meeting of both houses of the Legislature totally closed to the media.

“They’ve also rejected using the Patients Compensation Fund, they’ve indicated they won’t use proceeds from revenue bonds to make investments in community based options for people. Together that amounts to $300 million that at this point they say they are not going to use. That $300 million leverages 400 million in federal Medicaid dollars, so what they’re talking about would be a $700 million hole in the Medicaid budget without giving any indication of how they’re going to pay for it, what services they’re going to cut, who they’re going to cut off Medicaid or how they’re going to make up the difference.

“I’ve been very clear about the choices I’ve made to balance they budget, I challenge the Legislature to do the same,” Doyle said. “If they’re going to put a $700 million hole in the Medicaid budget, then they’re going to have to come forward and say how they’re going to fill it.”

The governor boasted about his belt-tightening measures in this budget. “You’ll never hear people criticize me about not making deep enough cuts because we made them for the second straight budget,” Doyle said.

Doyle bristled a bit at the Republican criticism of the $1.1 billion structural deficit built into his budget. “You know, these guys objecting to structural deficits after the ones they rang up – this is less than half of what structural deficit was two years ago, it’s a so-called structural deficit that represents about 50 percent of what the projected revenues are over those two years. We have made enormous progress in dealing with the structural deficit in this state, and we have done by the kind of cuts I’ve made in the state operations fund.”

Doyle said his bonding proposal to shift resources into community-based alternatives for long-term care will reduce the number of people living in nursing homes, which he said is a major drag on Medicaid funds. Touting his plan to reduce the number of people living in nursing homes by 25 percent over the next eight years by moving them into community-based living arrangements, Doyle also ripped Sen. Mary Lazich for her “unbelievable” remark that nursing home residents were “coffin bound.” “That’s the response we’ve had to what is a very meaningful proposal of ways to try to deal with the ongoing loss of long-term care. We’ve never heard Republicans say a word about the issue, but this is what is driving Medicaid costs across the country,” Doyle said.

The governor was non-committal about how he might use his veto pen once he gets his bill back, not even saying he would line item parts to achieve his prized two-thirds funding for education. “I don’t know what will be in front of me, I don’t know what my veto options will be and I’ve really been pretty careful not to talk in the broad sense about what I’ll veto because I’ll get a big complicated budget package that will come to me, I understand that. And I understand it’s not going to be a 100 percent of what I want and I’m going to have to accept some things I don’t want,” he said.

Doyle sounded flexible on some pieces of the budget. While he said he would line-item some particular portions, like if the JCF deiced to eliminate four-year-old kindergarten, most sections are negotiable. “When you get into discussions of what the level of funding is, those are all things you can talk about and work through assuming you’re meeting the basic priorities I have here,” he said.

Thursday, April 14, 2005

JFC Agenda for April 19-20

The Joint Finance Committee will meet in executive session on Tuesday, April 19 at 1:30 p.m. and Wednesday, April 20 at 9 a.m. on the 2005-07 biennial budget.

The following agencies will be the topics:

Department of Revenue -- Tax Administration
Department of Revenue -- Lottery Administration
Secretary of State
Department of Financial Institutions
Environmental Improvement Fund
Lower Wisconsin State Riverway Board
Department of Natural Resources -- Departmentwide
Department of Tourism
Department of Transportation -- Departmentwide
Department of Transportation -- Motor Vehicles
Department of Transportation -- State Patrol
Department of Military Affairs
Elections Board
Office of State Employment Relations
State Treasurer
Revenue Obligation Bonds -- Medical Assistance Revenue Obligation Bonds
Department of Regulation and Licensing
Public Service Commission
District Attorneys
Office of the State Public Defender

Wednesday, April 13, 2005

JFC Delays Voting Until April 19

The Joint Committee on Finance has delayed the start of voting on budget items from this Thursday until next Tuesday. Sen. Scott Fitzgerald and Rep. Dean Kaufert, the JFC co-chairs, said in a release the April 19 start date allows Legislative Fiscal Bureau staff adequate time to prepare informational papers on individual budget items and allows committee members to complete their review of budget materials.

*See the release from Fitzgerald and Kaufert: http://www.wispolitics.com/index.iml?Article=34888
*See the agenda for the April 14 meeting: http://www.wispolitics.com/index.iml?Article=34906

Fitzgerald and Kaufert late Tuesday afternoon released a list of non-fiscal policy items they planned to remove from Gov. Jim Doyle's budget.

*See their release: http://www.wispolitics.com/index.iml?Article=34920
*See the Fiscal Bureau list: http://www.wispolitics.com/1006/041205JFC_FK.pdf

Doyle criticized Fitzgerald and Kaufert for removing the repeal of the QEO from the budget, saying it was done "strictly for political reasons."

Fitzgerald and Kaufert said the QEO was a policy item, not a fiscal one, but Doyle argued it had significant budget effects. Without the ability to raise teacher pay, the state's education system and economy will struggle. In addition, he said, he is hearing from school administrators that the QEO keeps them from using collective bargaining to lower health insurance costs.

See Doyle's statement on the QEO: http://www.wispolitics.com/index.iml?Article=34978

Tuesday, April 12, 2005

AG Asks Legislature for Civil Rights Help

Attorney General Peg Lautenschlager released the following statement on action taken today by the Republican Joint Finance Committee Chairs Sen. Scott Fitzgerald and Rep. Dean Kaufert which stripped critical civil rights legislation recommended by Lautenschlager from the committee's budget deliberations.

"This civil rights legislation is too important to be tied up in partisan knots. Since they are not going to consider this policy during the budget negotiations, I will expect them to work with me and other members of the Legislature in quickly passing this important civil right legislation as a separate bill. Even if they choose not to include policy matters in the budget, this should not be the end of this important measure. Wisconsin is currently one a small minority of states not to have these vital protections written into law."

Wednesday, April 06, 2005

Lautenschlager Grilled by GOP

"My primary obligation is to the Constitution, not to the Legislature. ... I am not here to simply service the Legislature."
-- Attorney General Peg Lautenschlager, responding to questioning from Rep. David Ward, who said he was disturbed by the Department of Justice going after businesses that are not breaking the law. Ward gave the example of the prosecution of a cranberry bog owner who was not violating any state statutes. Lautenschlager said her office had the power to take that action against entities who create a public nuisance. "We've used it very sparingly and only in the most egregious cases," she said.

GOP Preps for Votes on Budget

The Assembly Republicans will caucus tonight on the budget. The Senate Republicans had a five hour caucus on the budget yesterday. JFC Co-Chair Scott Fitzgerald said voting on budget items is expected to begin next Thursday, April 14.

Marotta Goes on Offensive to Tout Budget

DOA Secretary Marc Marotta began his testimony to the JFC at about 11:10 a.m. by touting Doyle's budget. While the session was generally more civil than expected, committee members still had tough questions for Gov. Doyle's number one man.

Marotta said this budget has the lowest structural deficit of the last six budgets, improves the state's liquidity, reduces the size of government by eliminating 1,800 positions, and even establishes a $36 million rainy day fund.

Marotta said Wisconsin's economy is leading the Midwest in job growth and leading the nation in manufacturing growth. He also lauded the plan to consolidate purchasing and procurement, which he said will save the state money for years to come.

“We can quibble about a lot of parts of this budget ... But I think the people of Wisconsin have spoken pretty clearly to this committee,” Marrotta said, referring to the public hearings held around the state.

“This budget is a gut check and reality check for all of us in the administration and the Legislature,” Marotta said. “It is a true representation of what you stand for.”

JFC Co-Chair Dean Kaufert said he was "disappointed" by the budget, and jabbed at the
governor's property tax freeze proposal, calling it, "Bumper sticker politics which the governor has now come on board with but in a different way."

Kaufert wondered if the state continues to set the bar too high on education funding, and how much the fund transfers and one-time money will hamper the next administration's ability to balance the budget.

"This is very much a balancing act," Marotta admitted, but added the bonding to cover debt in this budget is the lowest in the last three. "Sometimes with a budget you're not faced with good or bad choices, you're faced with two bad choices and you choose the one that will do the least amount of damage."

Quotable

"$310 million - we could buy a boat for everyone in the state to get across the river.”
-- JFC Co-Chair Scott Fitzgerald on the cost of the proposed Stillwater Bridge spanning the St. Croix River between Wisconsin and Minnesota in northwest Wisconsin.

“This is a very technical Web site. This is not just Mapquest.”
-- DOT Secretary Frank Busalacchi defending the cost of a $650,000 interactive site for the Marquette Interchange.

Briefings Could Stretch to Monday

JFC Co-Chair Scott Fitzgerald warned committee members to check their calendars for next Monday. With four more agencies to go today, Fitzgerald is concerned about the clock as the testimony of DOT Secretary Busalacchi nears the end of its second hour and a long list of questioners remains. Fitzgerald implied any agencies that don't finish today will be taken Monday.

How Will Staff Cuts Affect DOT?

DOT Secretary Frank Busalacchi said the impact of staff cuts to his department should be softened through attrition and cross-training of workers. The governor's budget proposes a reduction of 236 positions over the biennium.

At the same time, the department is seeking the restoration of 77 engineering positions, plus the addition of 10 new engineering slots, and plans are to pull back some duties currently farmed out to consultants.

JFC Co-Chair Scott Fitzgerald questioned whether bringing the tasks in-house will truly result in cost-savings.

While the department will always need to rely somewhat on consultants, Busalacchi said, “we feel we can do some of this work in-house. ...We want to protect our employees - that's been our process all along.”

DOT Secretary Defends Doyle's Transpo Transfers

DOT Secretary Frank Busalacchi defended Doyle's plan to transfer $250 million from transportation to fund education.

“Funding programs with transportation money is not unique. States around the country do it,” he said. Busalacchi cited Florida, Texas and California as states that do transfers from transpo. He added that with a rebounding economy, the hope is the transfers won't be necessary in the future.

JFC Co-Chair Dean Kaufert voiced concerns about the transfers, noting that vehicle license registration fees went up $10 in the last biennium and another $10 increase is recommended in this budget. “I think people believe when they pay the gas tax or they pay registration fees that money is going for transportation items,” Kaufert said. “I think it's disingenuous of us to siphon off money for other purposes.”

Busalacchi responded that the governor's emphasis is on education, which prompted Kaufert to shoot back, “But you're the transportation secretary.”

When Kaufert wondered how he could defend transferring money out of his department, Busalacchi said, “I'm a good employee.”

Sen. Joe Leibham isn't a fan of using transportation money for other commitments. “In a sense it's become the slush fund for the state of Wisconsin,” he said.

Busalacchi said the money transferred is replaced by general obligation bonding, and said despite the transfers the program is increasing by 60 percent.

“When you buy a house you finance through a number of years because it's there a number of years,” he explained. "It's the same with roads.

“If we didn't have the size of deficit we're incurring, I don't think we'd see these transfers.”

Testimony Starts with DOT

Testimony is kicked off today by Department of Transportation Secretary Frank Busalacci. Administration Secretary Marc Marotta will follow. Republicans on the committee are expected to go after him on the securitization of excise taxes proposed in Gov. Jim Doyle's budget.

Tuesday, April 05, 2005

Budget Big Shots Take Stage Wednesday

Among the agencies slated for the Wednesday briefing are Corrections, Transportation and Administration, all of which should provide contentious testimony.

Republican aides are expecting Corrections Secretary Matt Frank to take some heat for the governor's early release initiatives.

In Transportation, the focus will inevitably be on the $500 million in fund transfers and the effect that will have on current projects, like the Marquette Interchange, and future projects.

And in Administration, expect DOA Secretary Marc Marotta to be the punching bag the Republicans use to take out their frustrations with the Doyle budget. "All the secretaries are surrogates for the governor, but Marotta is more a top dog. I don't think they'll go after him, but they will ask him some tough questions," predicts one Republican staffer.

Monday, April 04, 2005

Dem Says Thompson-Era Policies Behind Spiraling Budget

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In the mid-1960s, it took $2.5 billion to run the state of Wisconsin.

Now it's estimated to cost some $53.3 billion, if Gov. Jim Doyle's budget plan holds true.

That's according to research by the Legislative Fiscal Bureau.

Inflation and a bigger government role are obvious factors.

But a veteran Dem lawmaker from Madison says policies during Republican Tommy Thompson's long tenure as guv explain the huge growth in the 1990s.

"The budget nearly doubled during former Republican Gov. Tommy G. Thompson's tenure," said Rep. David Travis, D-Madison. "When Thompson took office, the state budget was in the mid-20 billions and had more than doubled by the time he left office. The brief tenure of Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle hasn't seen huge increases like that."

During Thompson's tenure, a few things drove state spending through the roof, says Travis, who requested the Legislative Fiscal Bureau research.

Crack cocaine was an epidemic in the 1980s, and the crime associated with it set the state on a prison building and spending binge. "Wisconsin criminal laws have become so severe that our prison populations have exploded," says Travis. "We built a bunch of prisons in rural areas to help small towns, but this is a very inefficient and costly measure for the state. This helped put our corrections budget near the budget for the UW System.

"Governors Thompson and McCallum had the luxury of expanding state spending while the economy was expanding," says Travis. "Then the economy crashed.

"Not only did federal revenues dry up and state revenues go down, but Gov. Doyle had to make excruciating cuts in state spending," says Travis. "During the boom times in the late 1990s taxes were cut dramatically, so while expenditures went up revenues were cut. It's simple."

Travis says the desire to help education and reduce property taxes prodded the state to increase local school funding dramatically to two-thirds state support -- and school property taxes did drop substantially in the 1990s. Other factors, according to Travis: Thompson's ambitious road building and his W-2 welfare reform.

See the Legislative Fiscal Bureau list of budget totals dating back to the mid-1960s.

Greg Bump

Contact: bump@wispolitics.com

Updates on Joint Finance Committee action on the 2007-09 Wisconsin state budget, from the first JFC meetings through the governor's final vetoes.

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